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Charles
Aug 31st 2009, 02:45 PM
Received this in email, thought I would post it to the group for her benefit:


I wanted to make some protein patties for my first hive for the end of summer. I have found some recipes that call for brewers yeast and soy flour and crisco.
Question 1) Can I use brewers yeast and nutritional yeast interchangably?
Question 2) Can I skip the soy flour?

I have seen a recipe for tracheal mite control that was sugar and crisco.
Question 3) Can I use brewers yeast, sugar and crisco?
Question 4) Does it have to be crisco or can it be any vegetable shortening?
Last question) What are the ratios that I should use.


Thanks!

G3farms
Aug 31st 2009, 05:06 PM
And your answer was????

G3

Charles
Aug 31st 2009, 07:14 PM
Sorry G3, I was on my way out the door headed for work when I posted and emailed her. My email back to her basically went something like this:

I've never seen a protein pattie mix with crisco in it and asked for a link...

Q1) yes
Q2) I wouldn't, it is a "protien" pattie after all ;)
Q3) Wouldn't hurt but wouldn't help either
Q4) No it dosn't have to be crisco, crisco is just a brand name

tecumseh
Sep 1st 2009, 04:03 AM
Question 1) Can I use brewers yeast and nutritional yeast interchangably?
>I have and either seems to work just fine. cost of course is vastly different.
Question 2) Can I skip the soy flour?
>yes you may but generally you are trying to cut the high protein content of brewer yeast somewhat. and that would be defatted soy.
I have seen a recipe for tracheal mite control that was sugar and crisco.
>in anyplace with shb the old grease patties are not such a great idea. they use to use a similar pattie for terramycin/afb control.
Question 3) Can I use brewers yeast, sugar and crisco?
>sure. crisco slows consumption and sugar speeds it up.
Question 4) Does it have to be crisco or can it be any vegetable shortening?
>no it need not be crisco actually you would likely have better result from canola oil (which has a molecule that is highly beneficial to the bees).
Last question) What are the ratios that I should use.
> 2/3 brewers yeast and 1/3 sugar and just enough oil to stick it together without making the pattie too goopie (is that a word?). I would likley check in the hive first to check to see how much pollen the girls already have stored. if pollen seemed sufficient at or near the brood nest I would not really waste my time or money on pollen pattties. that is to say unless pollen is obviously insufficient there is little to be gained by feeding something they already have in sufficient quantities (in economic speak the marginal value of doing so is almost zero). others have suggest that once started you need to keep a constant source of pollen patties on the hive.