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When I was doing bees about 25 years ago on another island I read somewhere on how to be sure you got the queen when you took the bees from a hollow tree. I think I read it in the "Hive and the Honeybee" as that's the only book I had. No longer have it tho.
They stated that by drumming the tree all the bees would move up and out the top by slowly tapping the tree with a hammer.
First you cut the tree from above the hive until you reached the top of the hive. Place a box with a hole in the bottom over the hole in the tree so the bees would go up into the box.
Drum the tree and smoke the lower entrance hole until you have a LOT of bees in the box. Slide a queen extruder in between the tree and the box and wait for the bees to go back down. After a while check to see if the queen is trapped on the extruder.
If so drum the tree moving as many bees as possible back into to box. Close hole and take the box of bees and the queen and put into a super with frames.
I attempted to do this back then but didn't have much success. I have the same/similiar situation now with a coconut tree that has a upper and lower entrance. I can't cut the tree but I'd like to try getting the queen and bees.
Maybe use a wire funnel on the top entrance and watch for the queen???

Anyone done this or know anyone that has done so??
 

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They also told me I could catch a bird by pouring salt on it's tail feathers. No one ever demonstrated it, tho.
 

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They also told me I could catch a bird by pouring salt on it's tail feathers. No one ever demonstrated it, tho.
Isn't it true bees move up when you drum ??
 

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Bees, maybe. Queen leaving brood, I doubt it.
DRUMMING
Another method of transferring bees is by drumming them out
of the old hive. To drum bees, remove the bottom of the old
hive and turn it upside down. Place a new hive with drawn
comb or foundation on top of the inverted box and close all
openings. Drum vigorously with a rubber mallet, stick or
hammer on the side of the
old hive continuously for eight to ten
minutes. This causes the bees and queen to move upward.
Smoking the old colony before drumming is also helpful in
starting the bees upward. When most of the bees have moved
up into the new hive, a queen excluder is then placed between
the new and old equipment and an upper entrance provided.
After several days, the new hive should be checked for evidence
of the queen. If the queen is not above, the queen
excluder must be removed and the drumming process repeated.
Three weeks later, after the queen has been confined above and
all the brood has emerged below, the old hive may be removed
and discarded.
A variation of the above procedure would be to remove the
combs from the old nest immediately after drumming the adult
bees out and piecing the comb into empty frames for the new
hive. This is accomplished by cutting large pieces of brood
comb and then arranging them on a flat surface in empty
frames. The pieces are held in place by wrapping string or
stretching rubber bands around the frames. It is advisable to
transfer only comb containing worker brood. Empty comb or
comb with drone brood should be discarded. Comb with honey
can be cut so the bees may rob it or pieced into frames as above
for worker food.
The advantage of drumming is that it is quick and requires little
manipulation by the beekeeper. When brood comb is cut and
placed into frames the colony will expand quickly in its new
home and have a good chance of winter survival.

http://agdev.anr.udel.edu/maarec/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Removing_Bees.pdf


 

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This is similar to 'driving' bees.

Before the 20C and in some countries, bees were kept in straw skeps. One way to harvest the honey and wax from a full skep was to 'drive' the bees. The full hive was inverted and an empty hive placed on top. By rhythmically beating the full hive the bees would walk up into the empty hive. The comb from the bottom skep could then be harvested.

A description of the technique, with picture and refinements, can be found in Gene Kritsky's book ' The Quest for the Perfect Hive ' p43.

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