Please save comments, questions and posts until I have finished the posts Thanks As promised when I first joined the forum to share pictures of making hives commercially. [FONT="]Company sign and logo[/FONT] The Company Friends of mine, 3 brothers and a father got a line on some equipment to build bee equipment and started a company together in 1985. The equipment was used and had gone thru a messy custody battle. The equipment was hidden, taken apart, cut apart with cutting torches to get hidden in a shed with small access door, stolen back and stolen again, with parts sold off along the way. After finding and getting most of the pieces back together I was rewarded with putting humpty dumpy back together. I redesigned some machines and built some new ones to speed the manufacturing process. They shut the business down in 1991 due to poor sales in Canada for beehive wood products. The borders were closed to package bees and queens from the us mainland, honey prices were at an all time low, with a world wide surplus of honey, and the importation of honey from Venezuela and China. There was so much used equipment out there that you could buy a super full of drawn frames for $1.00 A box. They were bought just so the wax could be render out of them.