Cut out

Discussion in 'Swarms, Cut outs, and Trap outs' started by Bens-Bees, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. Bens-Bees

    Bens-Bees New Member

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    Well the weather is looking good for doing the cut-out on Friday... only problem is that I have to work Thursday night and Friday night... plus I'll have my three year old son with me. But the weather doesn't look good again until the following week in which I would be facing the same thing. So I'm going to see if I can do it Friday. I get off work at 5am and get home by 6 so I could sleep from 6-10 or 11, get up, feed AJ and get ready and head out the door by 11:30, get there by 12:00, that gives me from 12:00 to 4:00 to do the cutout so I'll have to be quick and messy about it (I know, right). Get back home by 4:30 and drop the bees off grab a cup of milk for AJ and head back out to drop AJ off with mom then head to work and try to get there by 6, tired, sore, exhausted, stung, and happy. :lol: You know, typing this out, I'm not so sure it's such a good idea to try to do it on Friday. What do you think?
     
  2. G3farms

    G3farms New Member

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    I think I would wait till you could have a full day for it, never know what you will run into on a cut out.
    Would love to help you out if you need it, but fri and sat are out for me, working myself.

    G3
     

  3. Bens-Bees

    Bens-Bees New Member

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    Yeah you're right. I decided to postpone for another day... it's just frustrating because on every day for the next 10 days that my schedule is free, the weather is not going to cooperate. Oh well, this will give me a good opportunity to build a new bee-vac for my 8-frame hives... you want my old one, minus the hoses?

    Also I have a 10-frame deep box that's kinda old that I'm going to replace with a medium this week... do you want the box?

    If not I'll just be throwing it away.
     
  4. G3farms

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    I made a 10 frame robo vac last year and really like it, I will pass on them but thanks for the offer.
    You might bring it to the KCBA meeting monday and give it to some one, or offer it for a door prize.
     
  5. Bens-Bees

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    Well the weather looks good for Tuesday, and my son has preschool on tuesday which will give me an opportunity to dig in and maybe get it done before he gets home if I hurry, if not then I'll just get what I can done then pick him up and go back and finish the rest with him there. As long as the hive doesn't go down into the wall and is just in the soffit then I should be able to finish pretty quickly though... I can work quick and dirty.
     
  7. G3farms

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    Good luck with it and be careful on that ladder.

    G3
     
  8. Bens-Bees

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    Well, I got into it alright... ended up getting a late start in the morning after having built the new bee-vac the night before didn't allow me any time to pack the car. So my 4 hour time-frame shrank to a 2 hour 20 minute timeframe... none the less, I told them I would get into them so I did. It started out well enough, but I quickly found that it was just not going to happen the way I wanted it to. They were up under the soffit, but only with honey storage... the brood chamber is down inside the wall in an inaccessible area. Nevertheless, the young queen must have been out for a stroll checking out the hive because I did see and nab her, allong with 3-4 thousand bees... but it was drone city. There was nearly one drone for each worker... holy cow that was a lot of drones. Anyway, I took that and added 1 frame of brood and eggs (just in case the queen got mortally wounded in the process of me nabbing her, though I doubt she was hurt at all)... and 3 frames of drawn comb, uncapped nectar and pollen all about half-covered with bees from my main hive. So that should get them off to a good start. But I left more bees than I took and since the brood chamber is inaccessible I suggested a trap-out to the homeowner and that's what I think they'll do. So I did what I could and was done with 10 minutes to spare...

    Didn't get stung at all, didn't even have a single bee attempt to sting me... not even when I was cutting out the comb. It was downright odd to see bees that calm. None of my bees have ever been that calm, not even when they were just swarms. They almost seemed eager to leave as many hundreds actually marched right in to the bee-vac on their own.

    Strange thing though... when I pulled in, I found several bees crawling around on the driveway. They were pitch black with no white/gray bands but were definately honey bees, so I assume they were german black bees... so I was thinking... oh great! Here we go, quick and dirty cutout with german black bees = at least 50 stings through the suit... but when I got up to the bees in the hive, none of them were black. Not even carni colored. They were all brown, with no gold or orange in them at all, just brown... and so dossile it really still just amazes me how dossile they were.

    I am really pleased with how well my new bee-vac worked... I really got the suction just right and the landing pad angled just right... not a single bee was dead when I opened them up and none even looked banged up at all. So that was pretty awesome.

    So after all that I picked up my son from school and then got into my big hive... man, the temperament difference was just huge. They were just pissy today. As soon as I cracked the hive open they were all over me letting me know about it. But I had to go digging through there to finally get rid of that deep box... finally gone. Now I'm down to all mediums... though I still have 5 deep frames in there... they just hang down into the second medium and while I'm sure the bees will not just build comb below them instead of the mediums, I would much rather they do that because I'm not overly concened about having to move those deep frames... when I do, it will be in the summer dearth when there is no brood in them and it will be to replace them with medium frames and get rid of the deep frames entirely.

    And now I'm at work, getting ready for a full, long night of working half-asleep. Good times!

    I forgot my camera, else I would have taken some pictures... but at least that's all I forgot... plus, that camera prolly wouldn't have saved the pictures anyway, half the time it does and half the time it doesn't.
     
  9. Mama Beek

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    Sounds like a good cut-out and some interesting new bees to enjoy!
     
  10. Bens-Bees

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    This call paid off again, after I gave up on the bait hive for the trapout, the bees stuck around anyway and started building their own comb, so I went back today and vacuumed up what was left which was easily 3-4 thousand bees, tossed in a frame of eggs and brood from another hive to make sure they can make their own queen if need be, and now I have yet another hive from this one. It will be the last though, as they are finally completely gone.