dadant hives

Discussion in 'Top Bar & other Alternative Hives' started by beehandler, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. beehandler

    beehandler New Member

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    where can i find info and suppliers of dadant style hives ??? :confused: it's not the dadant company that i am looking for :lol:
     
  2. Iddee

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    Maybe not, but an email to them is where I would start. Ask them to come to the forum and give us the low down. I think it would be an interesting read and might help their business at the same time.
     

  3. sqkcrk

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    What are you refering to?
     
  4. Iddee

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    I think it is also called a jumbo hive. Something like 11 inches deep. Am I right, beehandler?
     
  5. sqkcrk

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    Well, I thought that he might have been refering to the Jumbo Dadant, which has deep frames that are as tall as they are long and uses 12 frames instead of 10. But I don't think anyone manufacters them any more. You'd have to build your own or have them built.

    They're awful heavy and difficult to move.
     
  6. tecumseh

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    imho Jumbo's might be fine for a set down beekeeper. much too much for a fellow my size who moves stuff around even a bit... the last time I saw one was about 1984.

    the only thing different besides the depth of the box should be the length of the end bars.
     
  7. beehandler

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    jumbo hives, dadant hives, jumbo dadants, yes, that is what i'm talking about. being 6'4" and 280 lbs. with a strong back and a weak mind.... i'd like to give 'em a try. from what i've read it is a more natural size for the bees than a lang. style hive. i'm not sure , but don't they use something similar in the u.k.? if i could find dimensions,i would build a couple . or purchase one to use as a pattern.
     
  8. sqkcrk

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    Why don't you just get some top bars and bottom bars and make your own end bars so the resulting frame is as deep as the top bar is long. Then staple a shallow super onto a deep super. You will probably have to cut the shallow down a little. Or you may need to use a medium depth super and cut it down. I don't know.

    Unless something like what you want is manufactured in England or Europe you will have to build your own. No American, Canadian or Mexican Company that I am aware of makes them anymore. Not popular enuf.

    As per being more natural? I guess you are refering to the uninterupted comb space that the queen would have available to lay in? That was the theory, but mostly that idea was passed by for convenience sake. And, bees are adaptable.

    Knock yourself out.
     
  9. G3farms

    G3farms New Member

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    Here are some dimensions for you to look at, enjoy................................
    This came off of a UK beek site www.beekeepingforum.co.uk



    National Beehive Dimensions and statistics
    External dimension - 18 1/8" square
    Brood body depth - 8 7/8"
    14†x 12†brood body depth - 12 ½"
    Super depth - 5 7/8"
    The brood area is 2200 sq. ins.
    No. of worker cells 50,000
    Bottom Bee Space

    Frames sizes
    Top Bars – 17†long
    Bottom bars – 14†long
    Deep side bars – 8 ½†long
    14†x12†side bars – 12†long
    Shallow side bars – 5 ½†long

    Foundation sizes
    Deep – 13 7/16†x 8â€
    14 x 12†– 13 7/16†x 11 ½â€
    Shallow – 13 7/16†x 5â€

    How many frames in each box:
    11 Hoffman (self-spacing) frames in either a brood body or super. Although it is possible to fit in 12 frames, it is easier for manipulation to use 11 frames and a dummy board.
    11 frames on narrow ends in the brood body
    10 Manley frames in the super
    9 or 10 frames on castellated spacers in the super
    8 frames on wide ends in the super

    Langstroth Beehive Dimensions and statistics
    External dimension – 20†x 16 ¼â€
    Brood body depth – 9 7/16â€
    Jumbo brood body depth 11 ¾â€â€
    Super depth - 5 ¾â€
    The brood area is 2750 sq. ins.
    No. of worker cells 61,400
    Top Bee Space

    Frames sizes.
    Top Bars – 19†long
    Bottom bars – 17 9/16†long
    Deep side bars – 9 1/8†long
    Jumbo side bars – 11 ¼†long
    Shallow side bars – 5 3/8†long

    Foundation sizes
    Deep – 16 ¾†8 5/8â€
    Jumbo – 16 ¾†x 10 ¾â€
    Shallow – 16 ¾†x 4 7/8â€

    How many frames in each box:
    10 Hoffman frames in either a brood body or super.
    8 Manley frames in the super.

    Commercial Beehive Dimensions and statistics
    External dimension – 18 5/16†square
    Brood body depth – 10 ½â€
    Super depth – 6 3/8â€
    The brood area is 3000 sq. ins.
    No. of worker cells 70,500
    Bottom Bee Space

    Frames sizes.
    Top Bars – 17 ¼†long
    Bottom bars – 16†long
    Deep side bars – 10†long
    Shallow side bars – 6†long

    Foundation sizes
    Deep – 15 7/16†x 9 ½â€
    Shallow – 15 7/16†x 5 ½â€

    How many frames in each box:
    11 Hoffman frames in either a brood body or super.
    10 Manley frames in the super.

    Smith Beehive Dimensions and statistics
    External dimension – 16 3/8†x 18 ¼â€
    Brood body depth - 8 7/8â€
    14†x 12†brood body depth - 12 ½â€
    Super depth - 5 7/8â€
    The brood area is 2200 sq. ins.
    No. of worker cells 50,000
    Top Bee Space

    Frames sizes.
    Top Bars – 15 ½â€â€ long
    Bottom bars – 14†long
    Deep side bars – 8 ½†long
    14†x12†side bars – 12†long
    Shallow side bars – 5 ½†long Foundation sizes
    Deep – 13 7/16†x 8â€
    14 x 12†– 13 7/16†x 11 ½â€
    Shallow – 13 7/16†x 5â€

    How many frames in each box:
    11 Hoffman (self-spacing) frames in either a brood body or super. Although it is possible to fit in 12 frames, it is easier for manipulation to use 11 frames and a dummy board.
    10 Manley frames in the super.



    Dadant Beehive Dimensions and statistics
    External dimension – 20†x18 ½â€
    Brood body depth – 11 ¾â€
    Super depth – 6 5/8â€
    The brood area is 3740 sq. ins.
    No. of worker cell
    Top Bee Space

    Frames sizes.
    Top Bars – 19†long
    Bottom bars – 17 9/16†long
    Deep side bars – 11 ¼†long
    Shallow side bars – 6 ¼†long

    Foundation sizes
    Deep – 16 ¾†x 10 ¾â€
    Shallow – 16 ¾†x 5 ¾â€

    How many frames in each box:
    11 Hoffman frames in either a brood body or super.
    10 Manley frames in the super.
     
  10. beehandler

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    thank you g3 !!!! that's what i was-a-wantin' !!!
     
  11. G3farms

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    I just want to see you pick one of those up that is full of capped honey :mrgreen:

    G3
     
  12. beehandler

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    not gonna use 'em for supers. just for brood rearing.