Does 5G affect bees?

Gypsi said:

Whereas everyone I know owns and uses a cell phone.. And I wear mine in a pouch up against my body, maybe not the smartest thing to do, but it isn't actively doing anything when its in the pouch

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PDA1 said:

Will give my thoughts here and these aren't particular to original question of harm relative to bees.
In any description of RF (radio frequency) transmission several factors have to be mentioned;

1- frequency of the source.
2- ERP= Effective Radiated Power or how much power is really being radiated from the antenna.
3- Direction of radio emission; isotropic, directional (isotropic radiation would be similar to the the Sun as it radiates in all directions. Consider this to similar to a single vertical antenna (sorry for the poor analogy)
Directional radiation- radio waves aimed in a specific direction using various style antennas (though not the same they are like old roof mounted TV antennas)

Here's some background history to help. The USSR beamed microwaves at the US embassy in Moscow the effect of which produced headaches and discomfort in embassy staff. There was a similar program in Cuba the consequence of which has been named "Havana syndrome". It's basically "cooking people" with radio waves. (It didn't kill anyone so far as I know).

Also, and this doesn't matter too much- I've been working with radio transmitters of various sorts for the past 40 years. Lastly, I'm 20 miles from home so as Mark Twain (I think) said I qualify as an expert.

5G operates on a frequency 28 and 39 gHz (gigaHertz). The frequency of a microwave oven magnetron, which cooks using radio waves, is 2.45 gHz.

5G, because of its frequency will penetrate the skin to the depth of about 1/32" (depending on which "current expert" on the web you're reading)

So can 5G kills bees and anything else that breathes? Yes, of course and very simply too. However, it all depends upon the level of all 3 numbered items above. 'Give you an example;

1000 watts of 5G radiated from a directional tower with a narrow beam antenna at a distance of around 100 feet will indeed "warm you up". It'll simply heat your skin and you will feel it. However, again, because of the "inverse square law" if you double the distance to 200 feet the effect of the 5G radiation becomes only about 1/4 of the original location's. Simply put- you wont feel it much...sort of...but your skin is still being effected.

Now, considering the above example is exaggerated in terms of ERP (1kW) and a Directional antenna. If I remember correctly the FCC limits cell towers to a maximum of 100 watts in rural areas which translate into about 5-10 watts ERP. So at a distance of about 1 mile there would be no noticeable effect upon you. Even at a distance of around 100 feet you'd feel nothing. I said "feel" but there would be an effect as the radio waves would still be hitting you.

There is much to be said about the effects of rf (radio frequency) upon us creatures but the amount of power that hits you, me, the bees or anything else is a variable not easily answered.

Power levels of 5g can be kept low BUT that requires more transmission stations. That's why, in the US, there's an effort of have a multitude of base stations...everywhere- your house....your neighbours house....all of the houses in your neighbourhood...on top of telephone poles and anywhere that's feasible for the purpose. Keep the power levels low while using a multitude of transmission stations.

Now, here's the most important factor- you know that phone everyone supposedly owns and carries around with them that's on 24 hours a day until the battery's dead? Putting that up next to your head or anywhere on your body will have more exposure to 5G RF than the tower that's 200 feet away.

So, can 5G kill bees? Yes, it can but it all depends on the transmitter's power output and proximity to the bees. As to the famous video of the dead bees in California near the cell tower- I'd be inclined to believe when the tower was serviced the technicians got stung by the bees nesting on one of the antennas and took the practical solution of spraying them....dead.

I've often wondered why the powers that be haven't used lasers or simply infrared light instead of radio waves?

However, beyond the technical aspect this there's a philosophical and moral element to it. What's the need for this 5G stuff? Faster data rates? Or can it best be used to track everyone and everything?

Be seeing you....

Peter

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