Heres a question. Ive been beekeeping since i was in the third grade. im 51 now. now i try to be aware of all the beekeepers in the area. and love to contact them and set up a good re pore with everyone.. I always introduce myself and my intentions. . i ask fellow beekeepers and the land owners if they mind if i place swarm traps near their hives. Usually start at 200 feet away) to catch swarms. if they would say no i would move to the next closest property owner and ask them.. but I have never had a fellow beekeeper say no. what brings my question to bare was this situation. ( I ran into a fellow beekeeper and asked him if he would mind if i placed swarm traps around his bee yards.. he said he didnt care. and i asked him where his yards were. and he told me. . now his yards are hidden well and not visible from any road.. so the only way i could know their whereabouts is if i was told.. so i went up to the yards talked to the land owners for permission and access routs to follow and placed some traps out. well today i went to check the traps and ran into the beekeepers dad. needless to say he wasnt a happy camper. . called me a bottom feeder. and did not believe his son told me he didnt care and where the yards were. . he was so mad he jumped in his truck and left. he left the hive top off and his lit smoker there. so with rain in the forecast. i closed his hive and grabbed his smoker. and drove to their place to return it. and to talk to the son and dad to settle any confusion. . well they were not there but the lady was and i tried to explain everything . well obviously it wasnt going well cuz according to the lady the son told his dad he didnt say what he had said to me,. Thanks for the back up. I guess my Question is. at what point is a swarm fair game.. 50 feet. 100 feet 1/4 mile half mile what. I have always been taught that once a swarm leaves the hive it is its own owner and fair game. what are your thoughts. he feels like I am stealing from him. But its a swarm that left already. and i have obtained the landowners permission as well.. besides every swarm i save has a chance. with verroa mite management. in the wild they would be overrun and die..