Facts [and theories} about trapouts

Discussion in 'Swarms, Cut outs, and Trap outs' started by Iddee, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    This is an intermediate post with a few ideas about trap outs. It will be followed by a post on checking and concluding a trap out sometime later.

    Fact....If one worker finds a way back in, she will lead the rest to
    that entrance. After that, they will continue to look for other
    entrances. It is nearly impossible to seal all entrances if it isn't
    done with the initial set up.

    Theory....I think the queen reacts as if there is a dearth when the
    foragers stop bringing in pollen and nectar. She quits laying.
    Therefore, my belief is that the last egg is laid within a week of the
    trap being set. That leaves a total of 4 weeks from set up, until the
    last worker emerges. As with everything about bees, this can vary.

    I have never seen a hive starve to death in the summer. I have seen
    them use up all stores in a dearth in the summer and abscond.
    Therefore, when a trap out runs out of stores, the queen and the
    remaining bees will abscond. The majority of the time she will pass
    the catch box and land on a bush in the area. From there, it is like a
    swarm. If you find her in time, they can be hived. If not, they follow
    the scouts.

    a trap on a newly arrived swarm will many times leave within the first
    2 or 3 days. They have no brood, no stores, and no reason to stay in
    their new home. Many of these queens will take the catch box, many
    will not. a colony that has been established for quite some time will
    almost always leave the area, leaving only the bees that have taken up
    in the catch box prior to the departure.

    I have been told by beeks in heavy SHB areas that the SHB will
    devastate a colony before the trap out can be completed.If you have a
    problem with SHB in your area, you may want to do the trapouts in
    early spring before the SHB get strong.
     
  2. Bsweet

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    Will a swarm trap setup near a trap out, say two weeks into the trap out net the queen/bees ? or a waste of time? Jim
     

  3. Iddee

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    The queen will leave the trapout with the last cup or 2 cups of bees. Where she goes is unpredictable. She may take up in a swarm trap, she may just keep going.
     
  4. Bsweet

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    Thank you for the reply Iddee, Still trying to get my pea brain wrapped around the big picture of bee keeping. Jim