Fondant additive question

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  1. beewitched

    beewitched New Member

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    I've been looking at recipes for fondant. I didn't know there were so many variations. Some add vinegar,cream of tartar, or glycerin to a granulated sugar and water base. I ran across some that use powdered sugar instead of granulated, shortening or oil and were a no-boil version. My question is... are any of these additives bad for the bees? Are there some that would be better to use than others? I already know that I intend to add an herbal stimulant.
     
  2. Iddee

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    Cream of tartar may slow molding. The others may not hurt the bees, but may not help them either, so why use them?

    I would not use powdered sugar that has corn starch added. Read the label before using it.
     

  3. G3farms

    G3farms New Member

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    No to the powdered sugar!
     
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    No, to the creme of tarter too. You can just use apple cider vinegar with the same results.
     
  5. beewitched

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    Thanks for your help. I'll stay away from the others and use one of the recipes that have vinegar,granulated sugar, and water listed as the ingredients.
     
  6. Iddee

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    Good decision. Always better safe than sorry.
     
  7. Joe

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    After making many batches of fondant I have decided it's not worth the effort. If I had one or two hives ... maybe.

    I have decided that one ounce of corn syrup per pound of sugar works just fine. Of course there is the small amount of water...

    The result looks like this:[​IMG]
     
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    Joe, that looks good. Would you share your recipe?
     
  9. Joe

    Joe New Member

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    This may be helpful:

    http://www.stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk/PENotes/FondantSpecification.htm

    I don't have access to my fondant "notes" but for me, the important things were:

    1. Keep the sugar/water stirred until it goes clear. I started with a 5:1 sugar:water mixture and added one ounce of corn syrup per pound of sugar.

    2. Use a basting brush and water to wash sugar crystals off of the side of the pot while bringing it up to temperature.

    Here are some other photos:

    http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj305/js06807/Fondant/

    I started with more water than necessary but I avoided having sugar hardened on the bottom of the pan.

    It's much easier to buy a 50# block of "Baker's Fondant"!

    Baker's Fondant is made with sugar and corn syrup.
     
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    Thank you for the recipe and photos. I'm going to try it out. I'm always in the kitchen cooking anyway and if it saves me some money in the proccess that'd be a bonus too.
     
  12. PerryBee

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    The only thing to watch out for is the corn syrup. Bees will need to be able to take cleansing flights if you use corn syrup. The fondant I use/buy has only 3 ingredients!

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