I wish I had taken my camera. Word of mouth sent me to the son of an old beekeeper (now deceased). The son is 70ish. There were 2 machines there for cutting out top bars. The 3rd machine about 6' long was for side bars. It had 6 220 electric motors on it driving the various functions. You load about 10 - 20 cut to dimension wood stock in a feeder and it spits them the other end, continuous. They all need major reconditioning, sandblasting, painting, bearings I'm sure. He said I could have them for scrap metal value. If I only had a place to put them. All stored inside. Then he pointed towards another shed and told me there were about 7000 unassembled frames in there. As it was I came away with 36 supers with frames for $5 a box. All cypress, all unused. I couldn't fit any more in the bed of my truck this trip. I really think those old machines are neat and need somebody to talk me out of them, and not monetarily.