Here is a few tips for those going foundationless in one form or another. Some of these tips may apply to only one type foundationless system, while other tips may apply across the board. * Consider using medium frames or what would be the equivalent of medium comb for frameless foundation system. The deeper frames/comb may have a tendency to "curve" a bit, while the mediums seem to limit this. * Start with a starter strip is possible. This gives the basis of a pattern that bees follow better than something such as a Popsicle stick. And if you do use a stick, coat the edge with beeswax. I like to use about 1/2 inch of wax foundation, or a strip of plastic foundation cut on the table saw. I know I get better attachment this way. In cutting out wax (honeycomb), it allows you to leave the half inch to get the bees going again with little problems. * Bees love drawing new comb on the most southern exposed side of the box. This is especially true in northern areas. So position the box so the comb will be built parallel to the southern sun. If you place the box facing east southeast, this seems to do the trick. If you place the hive where the bars/frames run north/south, the bees may start cross comb near the front of the box facing south. This is their natural way of taking advantage of the sun's warmth. * When first starting out, check your box every few days. Correct IMMEDIATELY any problems with bent/curved comb, by cutting it out. It will only get worse if allowed to continue. Foundationless systems allow you to "start over" if needed. *Comb spacing is very important. (Even for those using full foundation sheets), any extra space between the frames may cause burr/cross comb. Always push your frames tight together as the last thing you do before putting on the top. Most cross and bad comb can be directly related to space issues. And if you make your top bars for a TBH system, you must be very specific for bar width. * After you have a number of brood combs drawn, rotate in and draw new comb in between them. The bee space between two brood frames is almost always correct. NEVER place foundationless (or foundation) between frames with open cells of nectar. You can however draw new comb between full frames of CAPPED comb. * Foundationless does not mean having to give up frames. Although Warre hives, various TBH systems, and other framesless hives are popular, you can acheive the same clean, more natural comb, by simply not using foundation, but still using the frames. It is by far the simplest way of having foundationless comb. I hope this helps.