hello i,m ANDRES RAAVA FROM ESTONIA

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  1. andh

    andh New Member

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    Hello. I'm Andres Raava. I'm from Estonia. My dad was a beekeeper / inventor. And he managed to get his life's work between covers.

    Here is a short presentation of the book.

    Sorry, but my english is not correct.

    About of METE beekeeping.
    METE–beekeeping is developed by Estonian amateur beekeeper Andres Raava
    senior. The technology is based on results of research of bee-family
    behaviour, cause-result analysis, through set of visibly small innovations.
    The priority of the METE beekeeping technology is protected with
    international patent, principles and description published in WO 88/04138
    from June 16, 1988.
    Difference from traditional beekeeping is not purely technical, concerning
    the dimensions of beehive frames (comb foundation), but also the fundamental
    concept on bee-family behaviour and new fundamentals for beekeeping. The
    concept describes the organism with yet scientifically not known form,
    anatomy, characteristics and fysiology. First publication of concept took
    place on September 20-26, 1993 in Peking, poster-presentation PS-232 at the
    XXXIII beekeeping-conference organized by APIMONDIA.
    METE beekeeping does not have the problems, common for modern bee-keeping on
    bee-health, swarming etc. Non-productive costs are reduced compared to
    traditional technology there these costs are often caused by construction of
    traditional beehives allowing bees to realize only 10%–15% of their bee and
    swax production potential. This is caused by stone-aged myths on bee-family
    behaviour, transformed to the concept of social honeybee colony.
    Unfortunately most of theories and understandings are controversial with the
    knowledge on basic biology and other nature-sciendces (chemistry, physics
    etc.) and illogical.
    The modernization of traditional technology may result with increase of
    production costs and problems. According to market economy rules, in many
    regions bee-keeping will be closed down within XXI century. Only
    METE-technology may stop such developent.
    Today but also possibly in next decades the implementation of
    METE–technology will be possible only through self-learning. Not a single
    public education scheme can provide basic knowledge on bee-family behaviour
    as organism, related physiology, not speaking of professional training.
    To make the implementation of METE-beekeeping easier through self-learning,
    Publishing house "Valgus" has released in this year the book "My honeytree".
    Despite to small volume (68 pages) book provides necessary knowledge, basic
    requirements and explanations on METE-beekeeping implementation in whichever
    region of world, where climatic conditions allow beekeeping.
    Also the author explains the causes of modern bee-keeping problems, or are
    these easily deductable. Author describes, how to avoid such problems
    through METE-technology without extra costs.
    Short presentation of "My honetree" by Andres Raava
    Contents:
    Redactor's foreword
    Andres Raava`s "My honeytree" is not traditsional approach written classical
    beekeeping book. writer treat of of honey bee colonies as eqally living
    organism, wich consist of supers, honey and biologian part. He leaves
    backyards bees, like individually, and treat bee as colony`s one organ.
    That kind of treatment beekeepings biologian aspects can argree or not. That
    must every reader decide self. On the ground of that, has writer done new
    principles, wich are different of traditsional beekeepings owns, suchlike
    hive, tecnology and the ground of technology. His beekeeping, right harness,
    he promise to get great honey yields and other beekeepings products, with
    very small cost of production. Andres Raava`s invention is patented in
    Russia, and to use invention necessary technology of beekeeping is patented
    in 17 countries.
    What do we think about bees, where do we classify them, how we theorize over
    them, it does not matter anything for them, but how we near by them, one or
    other thing practically do, it is for them important, and for this doing the
    react by peculiar way (sickness, very great honey production, big swarming,
    etc).
    In practice beekeeping, I think it is remunerative to proof experiment of
    writers invention. His present way to built up hives, is not difficult to
    make them self. First couple of hives... . Lets see this things essence, by
    own practice activity, what kind of is hive and frames measures, and what is
    most important, how can we offer to bees, lived million of years in
    nature,they possesion got conditions of life.
    Introduction and little about history.
    Beginning was easy. Beginning of 70s I noticed, that I need bees for
    appletrees pollination. One friend of mine gave to me not typically hive
    with bees. This broad chamber frames was 2/3 part and spasing frames 1/3
    part of highness what was normally used in Estonia as a standard hives. This
    body hive included 10 supers. Beekeeping with that kind of hives was
    anywhere written and there was no recipe how to do beekeeping with this
    hive. My friend gave to me some information, he had years ago learned
    beekeeping. Also I bought H.Talts book "Tegelik mesindus" for at get
    beginners information of bees and beekeeping. All others things had to learn
    myself. teacher was very good, same colony inside this hive. And I thought
    colony liked very much of living in that hive. Anybody of bees did not get
    ill, there was not other typically problems wich had other beekeepers, very
    well developed and lived colony, when I used for its broadening ,body with
    small frames. Litttle by little gath ered experience and notables of bees
    life.
    I was interested in, what and why, inside hive is happening. My attention
    begin to be different, of beekeeping specialists own position and
    recommendations. I noticeabled fied that produce of honey is not depent on
    beekeepings tecnology and bees race, but number of colonys, and without
    producing honey, is colonys exist not possible, and bees excrete beewax and
    build honeycombs, not only spring summer time, but also in september.
    Beekeeping with that hive, I did not have to use much traditional
    beekeepings unavoidable methods. To colonys was not dangerous beginning of
    80`s spread Varroa jacobson sicness, very fast I noticed that to use poison
    against varroa, I make more harm, that these twenty-thirty varroas make to
    hives. Middle of 80`s I had one question, wich I did not understand why I
    have not, in these hives, such a kind of problems, as neighbours have with
    standard hives?
    Year, when started big changes in old USSR "perestroika", I decide to begin
    private trader, to produce and sell these hives. So that kind of "strange"
    hive would be understandable for consumer, I started spring 86,to keep my
    colonies in hives with standard frames. So after two months begame problems,
    wich I had earlier not with my own hive and frames. Colonies started
    swarming. Did not help to add bodies So I sit one night near colony, wich
    wanted to swarm. I watched colony frame by frame, and thinked what`s the
    problem? What I can not to do? So I understud, that I can not with standard
    frames lying broods to divide vertically and between separate pieces to put
    artifact honeycomb bottom, as it was possible with earlier used small body
    frames. So then was apple falled on my head. I counted standard frames
    honeycombs, so I found, that queens maximum laying eggs occupy cubic-style
    brood only sewen frames, ball styled nine to ten frames. That kind of brood
    can be broaden only
    horisontally, so cross the colonys moving and warms naturally direction.
    That`s harmful for colony, Now it was clear, how to start hives construction
    and colonies keeping. From G. F Taranov`s book I had studied bee colonys
    overactiv condition, and it was years every day naturally phenomenon to me.
    To take all togheter what I know, I decide to write article, about hives
    construction and colonies keeping bases. I consulted with beekeeping
    specalists, and we found that anybody had earlier wrote in this way. What
    was this writing essentially " rationalization " or something else, they
    could not answer to me, but they quess, that some kind of it was. So I took
    beekeepings textbook and my own article, and went to inventors and
    rationalizers union, and there experts told to me, it was invention. But
    problem was, that in old USSR was private inventors allmost unpossible to
    get author`s certificate of technology demain. I got instructions, what to
    do next, that avoid inventions too e
    arly publishing and to control all possible solutions piece of!
    news. I had to explore beekeeping especially all infomation of hive frames.
    So long time backwards as possible the key of my beekeeping is supers frame
    shape and measures, wich determinates in one supers number of combs. Had to
    be sure, that no one had never before written and published of frames with
    my measures. When there is not written such a kind of frames, can`t be
    written about technology. Without that kind of frames is not possible to use
    technology and colonys biologial connection and quality.
    Invention of hive aspiration includes description of technology. Reasons
    that kind of hives, and hive frames measures limit. When I did not strive
    for author`s certificate for technology,could not experts ask for official
    endorsement examination of technology. Support to in law fixed fact, in one
    aspiration includes two inventions, wich can not be used with out one or
    other, they must be togheter, so they changed name of invention, new was:
    Way to bee- colonys keeping and hive to achieve it.
    Years later, in other countries, where invention was patented, they changed
    name again; in side of "Bee colonys keeping" it was "Beekeeping". With it
    exists from 2. december 1986, both in beekeeping and vital functions,
    essentially, form, and technological, and also results of produce there are
    two different beekeeping methods.
    My inventions quarantee to take it utilize, was goverment (old Estonian
    SSR, Ministry of forest economy and nature protection , department of
    Aegviidusky Leskhoz) to take care of and aspire to invention patents in
    other countries. That obligation governement did not fill. So in 1988,was
    founded co-operative METE, wich took from governement obligations, and USSR
    commitee of inventions and discover gave to METE rights to patents in 1989.
    Unfortunately forbidden Estonian goverments official authorities to fill
    laws and other countries patent rights to give us. It was straightly
    hindrance to take invention to use in Estonia and other countries.
    At the same time was USSR inventions authory certificate for my invention
    patent processing bound, forbiden to expression. So I could not protect my
    legally rights trought court against organ of Estonian power, and
    departments inactive and distribute of wrong information of my invention.
    Some time later 1993-1994, I found that beekeeping-organisations,all-over
    the world, was not interested in,about beecolonies illness or to release
    other problems in beekeeping and essential evolve of beekeeping, but
    organisations was interested only to be "bosses".There are people who want
    to use and have information of my invention. I found a publisher wich was
    interested in, to publish a book of my founded beekeepings base and
    possibilities to use it.
    I hope this book give possibilities to understand beecolonys essence and
    activity.And they who are interested in ,could to take my invention in
    practice use, and to be sure its advantage.Of course it is strange to
    reader,because he (or she) is get used generally known opinion,that
    beecolonny is only band of wise and intelligent insects.But it can be
    something else,and works to be subject to all in the whole universum valid
    elementary laws of nature.
    Biological fundamentals of METE-beekeeping
    1.1. Honey from the point of view of chemistry and metabolism
    The author proves that honey is the colony's interim product - the colony's
    reserved substance and organic part.
    1.2 Thinking differently of bees and honey
    The author introduces some hypotheses the authors of which are of the
    opinion that a colony is a biological ensemble.
    1.3. Honeybee colony as an organism
    The author demonstrates that the activity of bees is not just labour
    movements of the insects living together as a community. It's an
    implementation of physiological processes and metabolism necessary for
    colony's existence by the organs of the colony in the form of insects.
    1.4. Honeybee colony's (hidden) possibilities
    The author explains the correlations between the colony's biological
    characteristics and potentials which are not used in practical apiculture
    nowadays.
    1.5. METE- bee-keeping technology and colony's natural lifestyle
    The author demonstrates that during the natural way of life the colony moves
    up and down the hollow of the tree and the tree (hollow fee flunk) stands
    still. Using METE-technology the colony provisionally stays fixed and the
    hive (hollow of the tree) is the one that moves.
    1.6. Why colonies get sick?
    The author proves that the reason for colonies getting sick is the arousal
    of favourable conditions for diseases inside the hive due to unnatural
    keeping of bees. He also explains how to use METE-technology to prevent
    sicknesses inside the colonies and cure already sick ones without additional
    costs.
    1.7. Mistakes in bee-keeping's breeding
    The author explains the fundamental mistake in colonies' breeding basics
    these days and describes the damage this kind of breeding has caused to
    apiculture. The results of current breeding have destroyed naturally living
    colonies at the periphery of bees living area.
    1.8. How much is it possible to get more honey and how?
    The author explains that using METE-technology it is possible to increase
    the production of honey and wax (with better utilization of potential honey
    and wax production and decreasing the number of colonies in the bee-garden).
    1.9. Colony's wintering and thermoregulation
    The author explains how the colony's thermoregulation works, what the amount
    of winter feed depends on and on what circumstances the colony is protected
    from cold by moisture and vice versa.
    2. METE-bee-keeping methods used in practice
    2.1. Best hive in METE bee-keeping
    The author displays the proportions of the optimum hive, constructive
    technical solutions and descriptions for construction together with
    arguments to be able to use METE-technology.
    2.2. Regular broadening of brood
    The author gives advice for using METE-technology in practice.
    2.3. Changeover of a bee queen and colony's multiply
    The author advises how to carry out the natural changeover of the beequeen
    and multiply the colony if necessary while using METE-technology. The author
    also states that there is usually no natural multiplying by swarming if
    using the technology correctly.
    2.4. Wintering of bees
    The author explains how to prepare the colonies for wintering using methods
    which decrease the potential loss of colonies during wintering due to
    unstable conditions. He also gives advice how to adjust the colonies with
    unstable wintering conditions.
    Summary
    Bibliography (recommended literature)

    Andres Raava sen. , 2002
    Publisher A/S Kirjastus Valgus, 2002

    With the help of this book it is possible to put the invented bee-keeping
    and the necessary technology into practice. It also gives the reasons to the
    problems existing in nowadays apiculture and recommendations to avoid them
    in the future.
    With best regards, Andres Raava jun. e-meil valter1128@hot.ee phon. +358449663727
     
  2. tecumseh

    tecumseh New Member

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    welcome to beekeepingforums Andres.

    I am afraid your description of what I assume was your father's ideas sound a bit like reinventing the wheel. In this regards it is always useful (insightful) to reflect on BF Skinner's description of 'a superstitious chicken'.
     

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    specialkayme New Member

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    Welcome to the forum. What part of Estonia are you from? My wife is from Tallinn.
     
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    For those whose knowledge of geography isn't what it should be, tell us where Estonia is, please. What is it like there? Rural? Urban? City? The terrain? Mountains? Flat lands? Coastal? The climate?

    Thank you.

    It is often pointed out that Americans don't know anything about forgien countries, unless they have a war there. Or wars are how Americans learn geography. Or something like that.

    Welcome. I hope you enjoy corresponding w/ American beekeepers.
     
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    howdy and welcome to the forum, i'll look forward to reading your posts. :hi: