OK, I am not a small guy. I ordered a jacket from Dadant last week in a 4xl thinking it would fit fine. (I wear a 3xl size t-shirt). It came in and I was not happy with the quality or size. It was more like a 2-3xl . Very snug and uncomfortable. Ended up selling to dad and he loves it, so not a total loss. Question, Who makes a quality jacket/veil in a 4xl size? I wear a 60 sport coat and it fits with plenty of room. I am kind of leaning toward a brushy mountain and adding a fencing style veil. Any thoughts? Any hippo size beekeepers other than me?? :mrgreen: Thanks, Bubba