Installed my mouse guards

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  1. bamabww

    bamabww New Member

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    Over the weekend. I turned one opposite the other to see if it made any difference with the bees. I couldn't tell it made any difference with the bees entering or leaving the hive except for one hive has to crawl over and the other can walk straight in.
    The openings in the squares are under 3/8 inch; too small for mice (I think) and big enough for the bees.

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  2. Walt B

    Walt B New Member

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    Looks like a keeper. :thumbsup:

    Walt
     

  3. Slowmodem

    Slowmodem New Member

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    What is that yellow substance or object?
     
  4. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    Looks good! :)
     
  5. Gypsi

    Gypsi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks like half inch hardware cloth, painted, pointy edges down. I can do that. I also have those nifty nail plates used for deck and roof work, kinda thought that pointy side up on the platform might not bother the bees, but might deter predators. Thoughts?
     
  6. efmesch

    efmesch Active Member

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    Wayne,
    To me it looks like plastic "screening" and if i'm correct, could it really be a deterrent for a determined nibbly mouse?
    Do you use entrance reducers during the winter?
    Are those packets of pollen that got knocked off the bees legs?
     
  7. Gypsi

    Gypsi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Wouldn't real half inch hardware cloth work as a mouse deterrent - and allow bees in and out? Would there be a problem from using it?
     
  8. efmesch

    efmesch Active Member

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    I see no reason why METAL hardware cloth shouldn't be effective against mice. But I wonder if it won't end up knocking off too much pollen that the bees collect. I believe that it's such a material that's used on pollen traps. The bees have to go through the "cloth", the pollen gets brushed off as they scrape through the spaces and it falls into a lower collecting container. If too much pollen is kept from entering the hive, it effects the hive's ability to raise adequate brood.
     
  9. PerryBee

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    Looks good to me. It almost looks like vinyl coated wire. The openings look large enough that they shouldn't affect bees coming and going or even dislodging pollen (especially the one with the open end facing down). :thumbsup:
     
  10. kebee

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    I have plenty of 1/2 inch mesh wire but a mouse can get through an 1/2 inch opening so I am going to look for some 3/8 inch and make some mouse guards from that. Thanks bamabww for that great idea.

    kebee
     
  11. Gypsi

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    I didn't realize they could get through half inch. 1/4 inch I've got, cost around $18 for 5 x 3 feet at home depot, I could cut bee size openings in it?
     
  12. kebee

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    You could do that, but what I would do is get a punch or pice of would that is around 3/8 inches in diameter or a little smaller and put it in the wire to enlarge the hole in the wire, that way you have hole big enough for the bees but no mouse.

    kebee
     
  13. Barbarian

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    I have some strips of perforated metal from the local scrapyard. The holes are too small for a bee to get through. I use pushpins to position the strip across the entrance leaving a bee-space below the bottom edge. Once in position, I replace the pushpins with thumb tacks. Seems to work. :thumbsup:
     
  14. bee stung

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    I use 1/2 inch hardware cloth ,, i cut it right at were the cross wire is so the guard has the 1/2 inch wire with a point 3 full squares then 1/2 inch point ,,, now bend the points alittle then push it in the entrance with a paint stick ,, now when the mouse trys to get in the points will poke him and go in his skine ,,, he might get in a 1/2 inch hole but it would be tight so now the points will get him
     
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    Can a mouse get through a 3/8 inch opening? I haven't had any mouse problems yet and am wondering if that is the reason? I have had mice problems in my house attic and shop in the fall/winter, so I know they are here.
     
  16. bamabww

    bamabww New Member

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    I haven't had any mice problems with these guards installed and have tons of field mice in the areas around the hives. They are vinyl coated metal and therefore not susceptible to being chewed out to allow mice to enter. The "droppings" around one of the guards is not pollen, I was concerned about that as well and watched it closely.
     
  17. ApisBees

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    There are Mice, Moles, Voles, all looking for food and a favorable place for a winter nest some are smaller than others some can make it thru 1/2" mesh I use entrance blocks with nails spaced 5/16 apart and mice bate under the hives.
     
  18. efmesch

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    There's nothing like having a free radiator to warm you through a cold winter.
     
  19. ApisBees

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    And a well stocked bar of pollen and a side of honey for desert!