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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Iddee, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    Where to buy American gasoline..VERY important




    You might want to pass this on. I buy 90% of our gasoline at BP..................but take a look at WALMART. WOW they do it right (Notice where WalMart gets their gasoline!)

    WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON.

    Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even have been good for us!

    Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products? In addition, they are gouging us on oil prices.
    Shouldn't we return the favor? Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce the import/export deficit?
    An appealing remedy might be to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
    Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill up my tank, I'm sending my money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead. The following gas companies import Middle Eastern oil:

    Shell.................................... 205,742,000 barrels
    Chevron/Texaco.................... 144,332,000 barrels
    Exxon /Mobil........................ 130,082,000 barrels
    Marathon/Speedway............. 117,740,000 barrels
    Amoco.................................. 62,231,000 barrels
    And CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela by Dictator Hugo Chavez who hates America and openly avows our economic destruction! (We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!)

    The U.S. currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC. If you do the math at $100 per barrel, that's over $550 million PER DAY ($200 BILLION per year!) handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!!!!! It won't stop here - oil prices could go to $200 a barrel or higher if we keep buying their product.

    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
    Sunoco.........................0 barrels
    Conoco.........................0 barrels
    0ASinclair.......................0 barrels
    BP / Phillips................. 0 barrels
    Hess.............................0 barrels
    ARC0............................0 barrels
    Maverick.......................0 barrels
    Flying J........................0 barrels
    Valero.........................0 barrels
    Murphy Oil USA*.........0 barrels
    *Sold at Wal-Mart , gas is from South Arkansas and fully USA owned and produced.
    *Not only that but they give scholarships to all children in their town who finish high school and are legal US citizens..

    All of this information is available from the U.S. Department of Energy and each company is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.
     
  2. tecumseh

    tecumseh New Member

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    probably not such a bad idea... kind of a socialist group effect kind of thing, but what the heck. a bit more lame an idea with petro at 2.65 than when it was 5 bucks.. but late rather than never works just fine by me anyway.

    I never know what to make of nicely spun marketing phrases like this (snip)..
    Sold at Wal-Mart , gas is from South Arkansas and fully USA owned and produced.

    So how much of wal mart is owned by the chinese, japanese and saudis? likely more than some might like to image. I would suggest that if a company is offered up as public stock no one really knows who 'owns' or controls these corporations.
     

  3. cow pollinater

    cow pollinater New Member

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    Now if I could just find a station from the bottom list within a hundred miles of me and my fleet of guzzeling hogs...
     
  4. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    Time to get a horse. LOL
     
  5. Bitty Bee

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    I think we have a Murphy somewhere around here and maybe a maverick, but I don't recognize any of the other ones.

    It sure would be nice ,though, if the American people would get that good ol' independent spirit back and do more things for themselves on a regular basis. Instead of expecting someone else to do it for them all the time.
     
  6. cow pollinater

    cow pollinater New Member

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    HAH! I jumped off and did a search for every brand on the bottom list that I recognized and I actually found an arco station that sells diesel that is only mildly out of the way. My breeding rig runs a little over one hundred miles a day at twelve miles to the gallon... I'll laugh all the way to the filling station and back. :yahoo:
    Thanks Iddee.
     
  7. alleyyooper

    alleyyooper New Member

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    to know who really runs a company all you have to do is get a list of the board of directors. Just because you own stocks in a company you do not own it or say how it is ran. Of course you do have some voteing rights but you would really have to round up abunch of stock holders to over rule the board.

    so just how many oil well are in Ark. Are the oil feilds as big as the ones in the dak's. ?
    Personally I think that one is a little heavy on the bull. Inside the main store it is nearly impossiable to find an American product.

    :mrgreen: Al
     
  8. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    Unfortunately there is nowhere remotely near enough American oil to supply the ravenous appetite our nation demands in order to continue its present oil consumption levels. Even if we tapped out every possible oil well location in the country 100% we could not provide anywhere near the amount of oil we are consuming at our present rate.
     
  9. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    Omie, I think if you would investigate a bit farther, you would find we have enough untapped reserves to supply the world for an unbelievable number of years. They just won't pump it. I know 30 years ago they were buying oil from overseas for 33.00 a barrel, but would only pay 12.50 a barrel for U.S. oil. They didn't want it pumped. I also personally know a man who has a couple of private wells in OK. that the government made him cap and won't allow him to pump it. The oil game is a hundred times more secretive than our national security.
     
  10. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    If it's that secret, how come you know all about it? :to_keep_order: LOL!
     
  11. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    It does slip out now and then, if you just look in all the cracks and crannies. As said above, I know a couple of the drill operators, too, so it's just bits and pieces I pick up over the years.

    ""The U.S.' Untapped Oil Bounty
    There's enough oil to power the nation for three centuries without OPEC's help -- IF we're willing to go after it.""

    http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresour ... 80630.html
     
  12. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    I don't believe there is that much extractable/obtainable oil for one minute, ...but we could quote articles back and forth forever on that, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. :wave:
     
  13. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    OK. We can always agree on bees.... :D
     
  14. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    Definitely. :p
     
  15. tecumseh

    tecumseh New Member

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    iddee writes:
    I also personally know a man who has a couple of private wells in OK. that the government made him cap and won't allow him to pump it.

    tecumseh:
    I don't know iddee having worked somewhat along the edges of the oil business (what in the business is called a lease lizard) I would think this sounds a bit like pure bull.

    in almost any state that I have leased oil rights (and yes I have leased oil in southern arkansas) you have to request from the state the right to plug wells. unless the property was some kind of national park the feds would have absolutely no interest in the well.

    there is a lot more oil and hydrocarbons down there than some folks want us to believe.... it is well within the same folks be$t intere$t to make it appear from time to time that we may be running out fairly quickly. this has been a shell game reinvented by the oil folks on about a 20 year cycle for the past 100 years.

    and to answer Al's question there is a very old field in southwestern Arkansas that has been pumping oil for quite a long time. would anyone ship that product to a refinery and then redistribute this to Wal Mart spread over most of the US of A... I think not.
     
  16. alleyyooper

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    The've ran informercils on TV for some time now on how much Natural gas we have right here in the USA and how long it would last even if every car/truck were convereted for that fuel as well as the heating and cooling of every building in the USA. it is a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy long time.

    :mrgreen: Al
     
  17. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    No one is taking into account the costs and energy spent in extracting all that oil. There is a point at which you use more energy and money trying to get oil out of the ground in problematic places than you gain by extracting/refining it.
    In many cases it's like the person who dies of thirst out on the open sea because his body uses up more water in processing the sea water he drinks than he gets from drinking the sea water.
     
  18. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    >>>>tecumseh:
    I don't know iddee having worked somewhat along the edges of the oil business (what in the business is called a lease lizard) I would think this sounds a bit like pure bull.

    in almost any state that I have leased oil rights (and yes I have leased oil in southern arkansas) you have to request from the state the right to plug wells. unless the property was some kind of national park the feds would have absolutely no interest in the well.<<<<

    No, I've not been involved in any oil business. A local water well guy here gave his son the business and moved to OK. to drill for oil. He hit a live one, but was stopped from pumping and lost his investment because of it. I didn't say anything about the feds. I said the government. It may have been some kind of "rights" law, or anything else. I just know he is broke, with a pumpable oil well he cannot pump.
     
  19. G3farms

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    the feds could have been anything..............epa, no permits, some resource office, some kind of local or state law, did not own the mineral rights, did not have an enviromental impact plan, etc, etc.

    G3