Its all Iddee's fault. This has nothing to do about bees or farming. But iddee's Farmwall grader post to Jack led me to google, which led to youtube, onto old wood working tools, to this fasinating video of how things were dune in yester-years. I think this is so fine that these guys are still running their plant with old world steam. They could have put in an electric motor or even a gas or diesel engine for power but they have stayed true to the equipment that they are running. [video=youtube;_mKSKZau9qs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mKSKZau9qs&list=PL6598DC52BEE75ECA[/video] Click on the link and enjoy' I sure did. They have a nice dog with a short tail. I bet it is friendly and waged it's tail as a pup, not a good thing with that many belts driving everything.