Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-31-11)

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  1. bamabww

    bamabww New Member

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    I showed in another topic the way I had trimmed around my hive to help prevent SHB infestations. I've noticed this weekend while I've been off of work, even with the trimming, the hives get only about 6 hours of direct sunlight per day, as it is in northern Alabama now.

    I've picked out a place where each hive will be in direct sunlight from just minutes after sunup till just minutes before sundown, 365 days out of the year. Both hives will need to be moved about 200 - 250 feet from where they are now.

    I'd like to move them the complete distance early some morning while it is still cold, place them in the new location, place an obstruction such as a leafy branch in front of the opening and let them reorient to the new location as it warms up during the morning.

    I'll have to do this by myself so I'll be moving one box at a time until I get the three boxes per hive moved. I have an extra top cover and bottom board that I can use so each box will be covered while the move is in progress.

    What do you think? Open to any suggestions.
     
  2. ShaneVBS

    ShaneVBS New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives

    dont forget to screen entrance night before, but it should work
     

  3. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives

    Do the strongest hive first. Any returnees will take up with the weaker hive and reinforce it. Try to find someone to help with the second one and move it in one piece, or just get an appliance dolly and move it yourself.

    I would not break down the second hive to move it. You will have many bees returning.
     
  4. ShaneVBS

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    yea dont break it up lol, Iddee is rght, you have to move as a complete hive
     
  5. bamabww

    bamabww New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives

    I should have pointed out that the hives are in separate locations probably 200 yards apart right now. They will still be over 100 yards apart when I move them to their new locations.
     
  6. Iddee

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    Then find a way to move both in one piece. Otherwise, your idea is fine.
     
  7. efmesch

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    Re: Moving my hives

    any special reason for keeping the hives so far apart?. Generally it's to your advantage if they are closer together.
     
  8. bamabww

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    Re: Moving my hives

    I just wanted to keep the two apart, no special reason.
     
  9. bamabww

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    No big problems moving the hives last night / this morning. Everything went as planned except the first hive has a ventilated bottom, which I didn't know until I was preparing to move it. It is one of the thermoplastic VIZ elevated hive stands with a ventilated bottom board from Dadant. I had to cut a piece of cardboard and slide inside to cover up the vents which are big enough for the bees to come through. Lucky I saw this as I was putting the slings on the hive or I would have had a big surprise when I picked the hive up and all the bees came pouring out the bottom.

    Anyway, here are some pictures of the entire process from prep to final placement of hive # 1.
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    bamabww New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    Hive #2.
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    bamabww New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

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    How long should I leave the cedar brush in front of the hive?
     

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  12. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    Where there's a will, there's a way. Good job, Will. :D

    I would move the branch a few inches a day until it's off the entrance. 3 days total. Within 4 days, they should all be at the new home.
     
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    Nice job! Thanks for the pictures. Looks like a great way to move hives!
     
  14. efmesch

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    Too many times I've found that our "trick" [placing something across the entrance]to make the bees pay attention to their having been moved doesn't really work. Somehow, a lot of bees go back to where they came from {in this case, it's best to leave a hive there to catch those that go back to their old location}---I guess we beeks should teach them to read the text books before we move them. :roll:
    The only way I've been able to keep them all is by moving them a few meters a day,till they're in the new spot (for very short moves) or to do it in two steps--first move them (at night) to a spot over 8 km away, leave them there for two weeks, and then move them back (at night) to the final spot where I really want them.
    BamaBWW--I really enjoyed your pictures.
     
  15. tecumseh

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    I am with efmesch on the tree branch trick. I suspect it is more a 'superstitious chicken' event that anything else. anyway never worked for me so I typically do much like what efmesch does and move hives a few feet at a time or many miles away and then back.

    using a tractor is cheating... you are suppose to grunt and sweat and swear when you move hives. I think this is plainly stated in ABC/XYZ as being against the rule. 15 yard penalty and loss of down. I don't know who is on third???
     
  16. bamabww

    bamabww New Member

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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    Good call, I had a another friend say the same thing. And he added a penalty for "excessive celebration" as everything went off so easily. :Dancing:
     
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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    a snip...
    "excessive celebration"

    uh huh!
     
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    Re: Moving my hives (update: Hives moved 10-26-11)

    using the tractor and boom pole is cheating :thumbsup: good job.
     
  19. bamabww

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    After 4 days, here's the one's who never went to the new location or at least didn't stay there. I counted 100 bees that died in the boxes I left in the old locations. There were not very many dead bees around either of the old locations so I think my move was a success. The hives are active and busy, still bringing in pollen I noticed today.

    Here's the bees who didn't move into the new neighborhoods.
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  20. ShaneVBS

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    Good job, thanks for letting us know the progress