Newbie Questions

Discussion in 'Beekeeping 101' started by AcmeBees, May 4, 2012.

  1. AcmeBees

    AcmeBees New Member

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    Current inventory of colonies:
    #1 Bees cut out of log
    #2 A purchased nuc transferred into a 10 frame deep ~4-15-2012
    #3 A purchased package transferred into a 10 frame deep ~4-15-2012
    #4 A swarm hived 4-29-2012 placed in a 10 frame
    #5 A small swarm hive in a 5 frame nuc 5-1-2012

    Easy question first (and I'm sorry if this has been answered before, but I was unable to find it) How many full frames of bees in a single deep triggers the addition of the second deep? Are there pros/cons of doing it too early? I think I know what happens if you are late. Reason I ask, #2 and #3 above are boomin'.

    #1 above is the weakest for sure and I am worried than are below the minimum of bees to come back. I see my options with this as:
    a. Punt, pinch the queen and do a combine with either #4 or #5
    b. Switch hive positions with #2 or #3 to give #1 a numbers boost
    c. Steal a frame of brood from #2 or #3 and give it to #1
    #1 was cut out of a log not long ago, they have been trying to attach the cut out brood comb to the frames, but I think they are too busy covering brood to do much else. I have been feeding them, they take about 25%/day as the boomer hives. I hate to pinch a feral queen, but I would be combining them with local swarm stock.

    As always, Thanks for the sage advice that I'm sure will follow
     
  2. AcmeBees

    AcmeBees New Member

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    Another question, how do I know when the flows start and stop? That one does not seem to be well talked about. Is it obvious??
     

  3. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    The answer is A,B,orC. Your choice. Do you want to keep the feral queen? If so, then not A.
     
  4. Yankee11

    Yankee11 New Member

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    Acme,

    I am new also and have a smiliar situation. I have 3 captured swarms and 1 cutout. Just like yours, my swarms are going gangbusters but the cutout just doent seem to be doing a whole lot, compared to the swarms. One thing we did was put 2 empty frames in the middle of their 5 frames of brood comb. They are drawing out these 2 combs. But still, not near the activity coming and going from this hive.

    I wonder if it has something to do with the mentality of a cut out. vs the mentality of swarm.

    I know one thing, we are at the right place to find and answer, or two. or three. or four.....
     
  5. AcmeBees

    AcmeBees New Member

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    OK I was checking the progress of a swarm hived 8 days ago. They have 4 frames drawn and storing syrup and pollen. No brood to be found and I did not see a queen. obviously I could have missed her. I think this answers the log bee strength problem.

    Should I wait a few more days and check for brood again?

    This hive is the only one I have without brood and they are definitely acting different than the usual calm bees on a frame of brood. Kind of runny.

    Is this a newspaper combine? Which side should the queenright hive be top or bottom?
     
  6. riverbee

    riverbee Active Member

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    they may be queenless if they are behaving differently, usually ornery, if you have no brood, eggs, larvae, which would suggest being queenless. i would give her a few days and check again.

    with a newspaper combine the queenright hive goes on the bottom.
     
  7. AcmeBees

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    Thanks River....I was in there to check them yesterday evening, and I saw a TON of pupae and some starting to get capped.

    Guess my eyes aren't good enough to see eggs.
     
  8. riverbee

    riverbee Active Member

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    good news!
    a magnifying glass and/or the sun to your back helps with challenged eyesight:lol: