Well I went into the box I have with all deep frames that I put the swarm in I got on the 30th of April. There's 4 full frames not capped with bees covering them. NO sign of queen or egg laying. Just a lot of honey comb. No sign of mites or beatles either. I did fill the beetle trap with vegitable oil. Don't know if I'll need it or not yet. I'd left a top bar without frames that has a unreal heart shaped large comb. Looks like I may be able to get by without foundation. It was a bit weak tho. So I guess I'll just have to standby and hope the ladies make queen soon. How long does it take? They only had wax deep foundation to start with.[except one blank]. They are amazing little guys!