Not looking that great

Discussion in 'Swarms, Cut outs, and Trap outs' started by Dakine, May 12, 2012.

  1. Dakine

    Dakine New Member

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    Well I went into the box I have with all deep frames that I put the swarm in I got on the 30th of April. There's 4 full frames not capped with bees covering them. NO sign of queen or egg laying. Just a lot of honey comb. No sign of mites or beatles either. I did fill the beetle trap with vegitable oil. Don't know if I'll need it or not yet.
    I'd left a top bar without frames that has a unreal heart shaped large comb. Looks like I may be able to get by without foundation.
    It was a bit weak tho.
    So I guess I'll just have to standby and hope the ladies make queen soon.
    How long does it take? They only had wax deep foundation to start with.[except one blank].
    They are amazing little guys!
     
  2. jb63

    jb63 New Member

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    If you can buy a queen that would be your best bet.She's already bread and laying so you aren't waiting while your workers are expiring.
     

  3. Dakine

    Dakine New Member

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    Yeah I wish I could buy a queen but since we don't have mites here yet we can't buy them or bee parcells.
    So far I haven't been able to contact another keeper to get one either.

    waiting while your workers are expiring.[/QUOTE]
    Yeah I guess I should start feeding them sugar water again?
    I guess I was counting my chickens before they hatched!!!

    I actually did just get some one day old layer chicks in the mail the day before yesterday so I'm up 1/2 the night with them! Never heard of a
    beesitter tho. I am a official chickensitter tho!!!LOL.
    I have to keep their temperature right at 95 degrees! Dain't that easy to do.
     
  4. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    If they don't have eggs or larva, they CANNOT make a queen. If you can remove a section of comb with eggs from the barn hive and install it in the swarm, then they can make a queen.
     
  5. Omie

    Omie New Member

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    Like Iddee says- just put a frame with some eggs in the hive (if you have access to it). If the bees have a queen they'll simply raise the brood on that frame, no harm done. If they don't have a queen they will immediately try to produce some queen cells from the eggs on that frame- you'll see queen cells on it within 4 or 5 days. Then you can let them raise their new queen.
     
  6. Dakine

    Dakine New Member

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    Dumb as I didn't realize that. I guess I'll have to rip the wall off the barn hive and get some brood. How do I know I'm getting brood from it.? I 've never seen what it looks like.

    ALSO!
    Can I steal some bees from a wild hive to reinforce the population in the new one? I have a wild hive a few miles away. Can't do a trap out or cut out on it tho.
    OOPS! I can do a short time while I wait trap out.
     
  7. Iddee

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    Perry, or somebody, put a link to the pics of eggs here.

    Dakine, eggs is what you want. Brood is just extra.
     
  8. Omie

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  9. Dakine

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    OK THanks!
    When I get the egg comb I will rubber band it in frames. How many should I do? Do I put it between honey frames in the new hive? There's 4 frames right next to each other in the new hive.
     
  10. Iddee

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    Any amount will do, as long as they have eggs. The more the merrier. Yes, put them where there are most bees.
     
  11. Dakine

    Dakine New Member

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    I still haven't been able to find any eggs. LOTS of brood tho.
    Can I leave the brood outside the hive overnight in a bucket until I have time to put the comb in frames.
    Temperature gets down to about 70F here.

    How long will brood in comb live?
     
  12. Iddee

    Iddee New Member

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    ""Can I leave the brood outside the hive overnight in a bucket until I have time to put the comb in frames.""

    NO!!
     
  13. Omie

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    Remind me to never hire you as a babysitter. :shock: :lol:
     
  14. barry42001

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    Brood uniformly require 89 to 95 degrees heat
     
  15. Dakine

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    Yeah I checked it out and they have to be in the hive.
    I put them in frames with rubberbands and stuck them in the hive. They were only out for an hour or so. I only took a liitle so far. I still have a LOT of brood comb in the wall hive. I shut it back up and I'll let it recoop for a couple months and hit it again.

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