Secondary swarm queen piping?

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  1. clinch

    clinch New Member

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    Here's a quick question for some beekeeping experts:

    I caught a swarm today from a tree in someone's front yard. The swarm was quite small and I suspect that it is a secondary swarm with an unmated queen.

    When I first approached the swarm, I observed them for a minute or two. I swear that I heard "piping" coming from the swarm. I've never heard a queen pipe before, but I've watched several videos.

    Is it possible that this was a virgin queen piping from somewhere within the swarm, or was I just imagining it?
     
  2. PerryBee

    PerryBee New Member

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    Entirely possible Chris. You may even have a couple of them in there.
     

  3. clinch

    clinch New Member

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    Thank you very much. I spotted the queen from this swarm today, but no real way for me to tell if she's a virgin queen. I do suspect that it was a secondary swarm based on its size. Amazing how fast they are building comb though!
     
  4. PerryBee

    PerryBee New Member

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    In our area the bee supply store that sells nucs also sells swarms when they catch them. They go for the same amount as a nuc because of the number of bees and the prized comb building mode the bees are in.
     
  5. efmesch

    efmesch Active Member

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    In all my 41 years with bees, the closest I've come to hearing "piping" queens has been through the written word. I envy you clinch. If I thought you'd hear a repeat performance I'd ask you to record it and post it. Maybe someone else in the forum could get a chance at it. I'd be real thankful to hear this aspect of bee communication.
     
  6. PerryBee

    PerryBee New Member

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    Here you go Ef.

    [video=youtube;AYecvVhkpKI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYecvVhkpKI[/video]
     
  7. efmesch

    efmesch Active Member

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    Thanks Perry. :bow::bow: Very much appreciated.
     
  8. clinch

    clinch New Member

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    Yes, I'm pretty sure I heard piping coming from the swarm. Now I wish that I had recorded it with my phone or something. Thank you!