Sugar Syrup Ratios and Their Uses

Discussion in 'Beekeeping 101' started by jim314, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. jim314

    jim314 New Member

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    I saw AB post in another topic about feeding 1:2 syrup and didn't want to hijack that thread with this question. Will the bees build comb better with 1:2 than 1:1? I fed 2:1 in summer and fall during the drought and they stored it. I want more foundation drawn this Spring, but I don't want them to store it. So finally the questions assuming this "sugar:water" ratio -

    1:2 - They consume and don't store, but will build comb?
    1:1 - They consume and may or may not store, but will build comb?
    2:1 - They store it, and may or may not build comb?

    I hope this makes sense.

    Jim
     
  2. Joseph Clemens

    Joseph Clemens New Member

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    If they have abundant nectar available, or if you feed them, 1:2, 1:1, 2:1 --> They will consume, store, and will build comb if they have the young bees needed for comb building, and need more comb.
     

  3. tecumseh

    tecumseh New Member

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    sound a bit too simple for my way of thinking about these things...

    a bee is a seasonally directed social insect. what it will or will not do is somewhat to highly determined by the season (temperature and length of day). hive population demographics also plays a significant role in how these things work out (and obviously this is somewhat related to season also).

    and simple statement like this snip..
    1:2 - They consume and don't store, but will build comb?
    1:1 - They consume and may or may not store, but will build comb?
    2:1 - They store it, and may or may not build comb?

    is way to simplistic. it may give you a good overview but DO NOT think this is how things always work themselves out.

    let me pose a question or two to ya'...

    if a hive of bees is hungry from a long dearth do you think they would or would not store 2 to 1? if you feed 1 to 1 to a hive and they have plenty of places to store it and no young bees to generate wax, what do you think the chances are they will go to making and/or pulling wax?

    I myself feed 1 to 1 all the time. This makes cooking up the syrup easy and straightforward. If I lived far enough north then I would likely alter this formula to 2 to 1 if I was feeding in the late fall just to reduce the water content... I might even go one step further and feed with candy boards and thereby reduce the moisture content even a bit more.

    you can (people have) fed bees with syrup way thinner than even 1 to 2. a lot of nectars have sugar concentration even thinner still.
     
  4. Americasbeekeeper

    Americasbeekeeper New Member

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    They are feeding generalizations and you have it reversed. I may have read it from several books and websites.
    ABC&XYZ of Bee Culture, 41st ed.
    Beekeeping for Dummies, Howland Blackiston
    The Beekeeper's Handbook, Diana Sammataro
    Honey Bees and Beekeeping, Keith Delaplane
    http://www.beedata.com/data2/feeding_bees.html
    http://www.wbka.com/pdf/a009feedingbees.pdf
    http://www.kyagr.com/statevet/bees/docu ... 121807.pdf
    http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/alkhazim/Docu ... rition.pdf
    http://www.beeculture.com/storycms/inde ... cordID=378
     
  5. jim314

    jim314 New Member

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    Boy, I did have it wrong. Thank you all for the responses. I won't worry about which to do from now on and probably just stick to 1:1.
     
  6. PerryBee

    PerryBee New Member

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    Just goes to show ya, I have never even heard of feeding 1 to 2 before. :eek:
    For me it has always been 1 to1 in spring to stimulate brood production, and 2 to 1 in the fall to "fatten up" the winter stores.
    Caught swarms always got something in between to help "fuel" the wax building.
     
  7. tecumseh

    tecumseh New Member

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