I got a call @ 7:25PM, a swarm in a small oak tree. Ho Hum, how long have they been there? "All day." Compare it to a ball, baseball, softball, etc. "Basketball"! 6 miles away. OK, now you got my attention. Loaded swarm box w/comb and necessaries in wife's Explorer (wife with flashlight included). An hour later I set a volleyball sized swarm behind my house. Putting the swarm in the box was a nonevent. The event was getting to educate the daughter's that scared Daddy sent to show me where the bees were. I talked them through every thing I did and why. Explained about being allergic to bees which is their Daddy's fear and really enjoyed their excitement more than getting another box of bees.