What's wrong with me?

Discussion in 'General Beekeeping' started by PerryBee, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. PerryBee

    PerryBee New Member

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    I must have some kind of problem.
    Things are a little tight around the PerryBee household lately, just put an order in for 300 frames and 300 foundation (must have).
    Then along comes a deal (one of those ya know) on a box of those green pierco drone frames.
    New at the store up here, a box (52) goes for $3.10 a frame! Then add 15% tax, plus shipping (gonna guess here at around $30)
    Another keep I just met offered a box (new) at $2.25 a frame, no tax, delivered to within 5 blocks here in town.
    I have read about these and they make sense but I always thought they would be a lot of work to use as intended. I thought "give them a try", and if they are too much trouble, just use them in positions 1 and 10 for honey for the bees.
    I can't seem to help myself, I bought a box! My poor wife!
    But what are you gonna do, when one of "those" deals comes along? :???:

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  2. brooksbeefarm

    brooksbeefarm New Member

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    Hang them on the Christmas tree with a light behind them, plastic makes pretty decoration. :lol: Jack
     

  3. riverbee

    riverbee Active Member

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    perry,
    "what's wrong with me"....
    you're a typical beekeeper........:lol:
     
  4. Noronajo

    Noronajo New Member

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    My hubby and I are both retired so disposable income can be scarce but sometimes when I'm looking at bee catalogs online, my" click it and ship it" finger gets carried away and before you know it UPS is at the door! First I had two hives and thought 5-6 would be the limit- now I'm thinking 12 sounds like a good number! And I want to make some bait hives and try using drone comb as varroa control! And, and, and- yeah, it can bee a problem, Perry.
     
  5. tecumseh

    tecumseh New Member

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    a snip..
    Then add 15% tax

    tecumseh...
    dang socialist Canadians!

    another snip..
    I must have some kind of problem.

    tecumseh...
    you are talking to the choir here Perry!
     
  6. Omie

    Omie Active Member

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    Perry, when you see your wife constructing a giant drone frame, you better watch your back- she'll be culling you if you're not careful!
     
  7. blueblood

    blueblood New Member

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    I feel your pain Perry, I feel your pain......ha!
     
  8. Slowmodem

    Slowmodem New Member

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    A deal, ay! If it gets to be too much work, give out as Christmas presents to your beekeeper friends. :wink:
     
  9. Bees In Miami

    Bees In Miami New Member

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    PerryBee....You mean buying equipment when there is a deal means you have a problem??? I guess I need to investigate for the Beekeepers Anonymous support group then.... :lol: Sounds like you dun good! :thumbsup:
     
  10. pistolpete

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    I've been thinking about getting some of those green frames too. Sounds simple enough, pop them in and when the drone brood is capped put them in the freezer for a couple of days. Then put them back in the hive and the bees will clean out the mess. The downside: if you forget to remove the frames you've given the mites a helping hand and spent the hive's energy on drone brood. I suppose I'd have to have a removal date written in indelible ink on my forehead.
     
  11. Bsweet

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    Beekeepers Anonymous support group then..[/QUOTE]
    I thought tihis site wa the BA Support Group
     
  12. Omie

    Omie Active Member

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    I found it was much better to just scrape over the top of the capped drone brood quickly rather than freeze the frames.
    First of all, when you pull out the frame to freeze it, you are leaving a gap there in the hive for a day or two. Second, it's a hassle and you have to go back into the hive to replace it, disturbing the hive a second time. Third, I found when the frame thawed out, the larvae were a nasty oozy mess that the bees then had to clean out. Fourth, who wants that in their freezer next to the pork chops? lol!

    Far easier for them to clean freshly deceased larvae, and better to only disturb the hive once to do it.
    Yes, it's an unsavory moment, and I had to harden myself when doing it, but you are killing the larvae either way, you might as well do it with less mess and less disruption to the hive.

    Just take the frame out to see if it's capped, hold it over the ground in a convenient place, then very quickly scrape your uncapping fork right across the caps- I just hold the fork at right angles to the frame- no need to neatly lift up cappings as if you were going to extract. Just scrape rudely, and most of the larvae will be killed pretty quickly. It's momentarily gross and unpleasant, but I much prefer it to freezing the frames. :)

    You'll find that the bees don't always fill produce neat frames of drone brood on your schedule. This drone frame method is particularly good for hobby BKers who tend to go into the hive every couple of weeks anyway. Just get in the habit of checking for drone brood areas when you are in the hive, and scrape those areas if they are capped. I'm pretty sure that over time this can make a difference in the mite population.
     
  13. ApisBees

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    Omie good points and ideas. Going to have to get in the habit of carrying the capping scratchier with me.
    With the frames being that color it should be hard to screw up and put them in the middle of the brood nest. Unless your color blind!
    I agree Bsweet, well put.
     
  14. efmesch

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    A Perry snip:"I can't seem to help myself, I bought a box! My poor wife!"

    Perry, your wife is a very lucky woman. Think of those wives whose husbands "can't help themselves" and buy other things. :eek::roll:
     
  15. reidi_tim

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    A Perry snip: " Things are a little tight around the PerryBee household lately "
    I had to read that 2X 1st read I was not sure if you where talking about the Perry waist line from eating twinkies and hibernating in the tundra.:rolling::rotfl:eek:r spending money. I had set a budget last fall to spend $700 on the bees this spring. Was not sure if it was going to go for wooden ware or bees. I have one of the 4 hives that I'm not sure about and need to make a decision this week " next Saturday is the Audubon Bee School so I can take advantage of Walter Kelley being there and get free shipping " So as it stands I'm $685 of wooden ware with not much left for bees. :cry: They are selling nucs for $137.50 for pick up on April 20. So I'm going to roll the dice and hope to only have one hive that I will have to replace or even better 1 nuc to go into the hives I'm getting next weekend. I'm sure if I don't let the boss lady know about going over budget by $115 I should be safe.:chased:
     
  16. Slowmodem

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    :lol: :roll:

    That's probably a good idea. I have a real bad habit of just "doing". The other day I decided to try to round up all the receipts for bee stuff just to see what I had spent (and how long it might take me to break even). I was kind of surprised to see how much had went out, but I had kind of kept a running tally in my head, too.

    I don't think there's enough to justify getting a sales tax number and depreciating equipment and all that stuff. But I wish I had started out keeping records of expenses. I'm sure I missed a few things during my compiling of records (like sugar, membership dues, and misc. expenses).

    Luckily, I have one of the most supportive wives in the world. That makes tons of difference. :)
     
  17. pistolpete

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    Omnie: does scraping the capped drone brood also kill the adult mites in the cells? Or do you pull the drone larvae out in the process?
     
  18. Marbees

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    I was just looking at my bill from Dadant.... you would be shocked Perry!

    I guess how much you spend is kind of relative Perry. I will tell you a trick a very successful business man here (now dead) told me long ago in regards to money and most especially about going to a banker and borrowing money. He told me....' did you ever notice if you say the sum real slow it always sounds like a lot of money but if you say the exact same amount real fast it doesn't sound like much at all?'
     
  20. Minz

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    I went into the hardware store last week for one metric nut and one router bit. $110 later I left. I don’t go shopping too much and the 50% off of things like clamps and router bits and $8 can of exterior paint in light colors are all things I needed. I bought a unit of green hemlock last year same thing ($400/1000 BF). I have a dozen divided deep bottom boards and close to the same in migratory covers 90% completed in the shop now.
    I have no plan I just build stuff. In about a month I will switch over to gardening or some other compulsion. I don’t think I have a problem but my wife knows I do!